where do i stand?

where do i stand, what are my own motivations and goals and my reasons for supporting a men´s rights movement?

i think every woman, and probably, most men, should outline their directions before starting to take part in the male rights movements battle against the world they find themselves in.

as a woman, one reason i could give, is that if i were to have male children (something that has not happend to me so far) it would not be a fit world for them to live in. Decent women love their children so much that they are willing to fight against what is in their own interest. As a woman i would support a mens movement that restricted my own life in favour of my sons. Furthermore, as a parent of two female children, the over-reaction that could come about once feminism has been exposed is also scary. The one thing feminism never had was physical power. Im scared a male movement may encompass a movement of hatred against women, and make their lives hell. My children are not to blame for feminism, just as men born 30 years ago were not to blame for the things feminists blamed them for.

second, i think that the men at the forefront, and i mean AT THE FOREFRONT of this movement (not stagnating morons like those in Stand your ground), are really the most impressive things this world has. It must take a massive step to realise that all the feminist crap you are told is wrong, and an even bigger one to stand up against it. If evolution is right, then surely a woman would fall in love with a man that was COMPLETELY in touch with reality? Only a man who understands his surroundings would be a perfect partner to be with? I think the guys at the forefront of this movement are really self aware, and intouch with reality. Its so sexy.

to be completely in touch with reality from my point of view, you cannot be a gun slinging macho man, or a pink handbag wearing mangina. Its somewhere in the middle. I guess, ultimately, i quite desire this type of guy, so there is the reason. Its a good one isnt it?

Where do i think the mens movement should go?

i´ve been called lots of names over the last few months, (feminist and troll, amongst them, all in stand your ground) if you want to see what i said look up the name fruit_cake on the website stand your ground.

im not saying i am right, i never did, but i think that the mens movement has to in some way mimic what feminism did for women. It opened up their world, they moved into areas that were not seen as womenly. Today women can practically do anything they want. I dont think that that is wrong. What i think men deserve is something similar, along side a massive readjustment in other rights.

What im saying is for me that certainly a part of the male rights movement should be about men taking on femininity within themselves, i.e. being able to wear what they want and act how they want without fear of being called gay or ostracised.

they deserve equal rights in every way. 6 months maternity leave for women? ok, so 6 months for men too.

Equality for all. If women want equal pay at wimbledon, then, they have to beat the men. Otherwise they can get paid less, because frankly, they are less able. We dont have fat peoples wimbledon do we.

Otherwise, there are obviously other areas that men have been pushed into a corner and they need to escape. Divorce settlements, parental rights, working rights, sexual discrimination.. and YES, rape.

Rape has to be made into the crime it actually is. Unwanted intercourse. Its in the same category as punching someone in the face. Its not very nice, but no more than that. I think the mens movement has to attack the sensasionalisation of rape, made by feminists for political goals.

I´ve argued with other people in this movement, both men and women, who to me, appear to be arguing for some sort of cowboy, super macho world. Do men REALLY want to be pushed further into the corner of machoness? Are you really that tough guys? i dont know, but i dont think you are.

from what i have seen, there is a split within this movement.

this is the question i would like to know the answer to guys who read this. What do you want? do you want to promote cowboy masculininty, survival of the fittest, im a tough superman who does not get hurt by anyone, or, like i hope is correct, do you want to embrace what has been stolen from you - your right to enjoy femininity AS WELL as masculinity. Just as many women now do, accept the other way round.

i´ve been called a feminist before, because i think men should embrace femininity (note feminINITY, not feminiSM). I think the way that men can win this war for the good of all, is too take over femininity, just as feminists have taken over masculinity.

thats where i stand, it might change over time, but its important that people know where you are coming from.